AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Aim for the centre line...          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Planes, gliders and flying in Australia View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Richard Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:17 pm    Post subject: Aim for the centre line... http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... Back to top viz Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... Izat fer real????? /viz On 14/10/04 10:17 PM, in article [email]1hrsm0t9sqf2muhk7tdkv3ljeibir3v8mk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com[/email], "Richard" <richard (AT) kinky (DOT) nospam.cx> wrote: Quote: http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... Back to top John Ewing Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "Richard" <richard (AT) kinky (DOT) nospam.cx> wrote Quote: http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... Vref 115kts - that seems damn slow even it is empty John Back to top viz Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... Where was that taken, anyone know? /viz On 14/10/04 11:03 PM, in article BD94B65B.10EB%viz@*nospam*.pacific.net.au, "viz" <viz@*nospam*.pacific.net.au> wrote: Quote: Izat fer real????? /viz On 14/10/04 10:17 PM, in article [email]1hrsm0t9sqf2muhk7tdkv3ljeibir3v8mk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com[/email], "Richard" <richard (AT) kinky (DOT) nospam.cx> wrote: http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... Back to top John Ewing Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "viz" <viz@*nospam*.pacific.net.au> wrote Quote: Where was that taken, anyone know? /viz Rand Airport, South Africa ...see original post John Back to top w.k. Guest Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... background info at http://tinyurl.com/36gsl regards wolfgang, loww, vie www.fluglehrer.at Back to top JB Guest Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote Quote: "Richard" <richard (AT) kinky (DOT) nospam.cx> wrote in message news:1hrsm0t9sqf2muhk7tdkv3ljeibir3v8mk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... Vref 115kts - that seems damn slow even it is empty John It is damn slow. Also off the bottom of all of the charts, but then I guess their performance engineers would have generated data specifically for the operation. Extrapolating the -400 data comes up with around 119 Vref, so it's not an unrealistic number. 5000 feet up, the TAS would have been increased appreciably too. JB Back to top Aubrey Adams Guest Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "Richard" <richard (AT) kinky (DOT) nospam.cx> wrote Quote: http://teamhouse.tni.net/Misc/SAA/deadon.htm Yeegads... not a lot of room here... From the webpage: "...50 feet wide runway!) The 747-100 outer-to-outer main gear tire width is 41.33 ft." Was this much different to VH-EBQ retiring to Longreach? Aubrey Back to top Bernard Smith Guest Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "Aubrey Adams" <eaadamsRE (AT) MOVEiinet (DOT) net.au> wrote Quote: From the webpage: "...50 feet wide runway!) The 747-100 outer-to-outer main gear tire width is 41.33 ft." Was this much different to VH-EBQ retiring to Longreach? Longreach's 04/22 runway is 30m wide (and 1587m long). Back to top Paulco Guest Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... My brother lives at Mt Isa and was at Longreach when they brought the 747 in - he's not really an aircraft nut but he said the landing was quite spectacular. Cheers Paul On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:15:27 GMT, "Bernard Smith" <epping.smiths (AT) bigponds (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: "Aubrey Adams" <eaadamsRE (AT) MOVEiinet (DOT) net.au> wrote in message news:416fb5be$0$25596$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... From the webpage: "...50 feet wide runway!) The 747-100 outer-to-outer main gear tire width is 41.33 ft." Was this much different to VH-EBQ retiring to Longreach? Longreach's 04/22 runway is 30m wide (and 1587m long). Unless otherwise stated all references to location refer to Western Australia Back to top Peter and Susan Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... "Bernard Smith" <epping.smiths (AT) bigponds (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Aubrey Adams" <eaadamsRE (AT) MOVEiinet (DOT) net.au> wrote in message news:416fb5be$0$25596$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... From the webpage: "...50 feet wide runway!) The 747-100 outer-to-outer main gear tire width is 41.33 ft." Was this much different to VH-EBQ retiring to Longreach? Longreach's 04/22 runway is 30m wide (and 1587m long). Try 1936m long. http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/pilotcentre/aip/dap/LREAD01-077.pdf Cheers Peter Cokley Back to top matt weber Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33:11 +0800, Paulco <paulco (AT) nospam (DOT) com.au> wrote: Quote: My brother lives at Mt Isa and was at Longreach when they brought the 747 in - he's not really an aircraft nut but he said the landing was quite spectacular. Cheers Paul If you go to the QANTAS Outback Founder Museum, they have a video of the landing. Let's just say the boss didn't waste anytime at all in getting the speed brakes deployed and thrust reversers engaged.. Back to top Graeme Hogan Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... where's the video "matt weber" <mattheww50 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote Quote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33:11 +0800, Paulco wrote: My brother lives at Mt Isa and was at Longreach when they brought the 747 in - he's not really an aircraft nut but he said the landing was quite spectacular. Cheers Paul If you go to the QANTAS Outback Founder Museum, they have a video of the landing. Let's just say the boss didn't waste anytime at all in getting the speed brakes deployed and thrust reversers engaged.. Back to top matt weber Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Aim for the centre line... On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:07:07 +1000, "Graeme Hogan" <ghogan01 (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Quote: where's the video It is part of 'slide' show in the auditorium, although you may have to ask to see it. Quote: "matt weber" <mattheww50 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:2361n0hm2mnfbdldhf60t994djvcbs3di6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33:11 +0800, Paulco wrote: My brother lives at Mt Isa and was at Longreach when they brought the 747 in - he's not really an aircraft nut but he said the landing was quite spectacular. Cheers Paul If you go to the QANTAS Outback Founder Museum, they have a video of the landing. Let's just say the boss didn't waste anytime at all in getting the speed brakes deployed and thrust reversers engaged.. 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