AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Owning Airplanes View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Scott G. Guest Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Thank you, Scott G Back to top MikeM Guest Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge Scott G. wrote: Quote: Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Thank you, Scott G This was just discussed on CessnaPilots.org, and the consensus was that they are still trying to get an STC. Advice was that since Field Approvals are such a big pain in the ass, that waiting for a while is in order. Contact the vendor... MikeM Back to top Scott G. Guest Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "MikeM" <trashcan (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Scott G. wrote: Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Thank you, Scott G This was just discussed on CessnaPilots.org, and the consensus was that they are still trying to get an STC. Advice was that since Field Approvals are such a big pain in the ass, that waiting for a while is in order. Contact the vendor... MikeM Ok, thanks. I am sure they have an STC for the gauge and in the STC quite a few of the typical general aviation aircraft are included. It does not specifiy in the STC whether or not it can be used as a replacement gauge though. Some of the EI gauges such as Oil Press/Temp can be used as replacement gauges, and others such as the 4/6 cylinder engine analyzers cannot. I wish the manufacturers would be a little more clear in their STC's. The STC for the Insight analyzer it specifically states it is for additional information only and cannot replace a primary instrument. In the EI STCs they really don't say either way, but a call to EI cleared that up. As far as upgrades go, the EI oil press gauge uses a remote sender, so you can eliminate the oil line into the cockpit. Also in the Shadin fuel flow STC it states it can be used as a primary fuel flow gauge. Maybe if you have one of those Cessna split gauges, you can eliminate the fuel line into the cockpit, you would just have to either label the old fuel flow inop? or find a suitable replacement for the manifold pressure and remove the old gauge entirely. Thanks, Scott G Back to top Newps Guest Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I am sure they have an STC for the gauge and in the STC quite a few of the typical general aviation aircraft are included. It does not specifiy in the STC whether or not it can be used as a replacement gauge though. Some of the EI gauges such as Oil Press/Temp can be used as replacement gauges, and others such as the 4/6 cylinder engine analyzers cannot. I wish the manufacturers would be a little more clear in their STC's. The STC for the Insight analyzer it specifically states it is for additional information only and cannot replace a primary instrument. In the EI STCs they really don't say either way, but a call to EI cleared that up. EI will send you a copy of a 337 to get their fuel gauge approved as a primary replacement. You use all the rest of the Cessna stuff and wire it to their gauge. The Cessna Pilots Assoc website has lots of Cessna single owners who have recently made the change. Mac Speed at EI is the guy you want. Back to top Scott G. Guest Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Newps" <Nowhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:10a336k4ikc1v9c (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... I am sure they have an STC for the gauge and in the STC quite a few of the typical general aviation aircraft are included. It does not specifiy in the STC whether or not it can be used as a replacement gauge though. Some of the EI gauges such as Oil Press/Temp can be used as replacement gauges, and others such as the 4/6 cylinder engine analyzers cannot. I wish the manufacturers would be a little more clear in their STC's. The STC for the Insight analyzer it specifically states it is for additional information only and cannot replace a primary instrument. In the EI STCs they really don't say either way, but a call to EI cleared that up. EI will send you a copy of a 337 to get their fuel gauge approved as a primary replacement. You use all the rest of the Cessna stuff and wire it to their gauge. The Cessna Pilots Assoc website has lots of Cessna single owners who have recently made the change. Mac Speed at EI is the guy you want. We tried that originally actually. We installed the EI gauge and went through the calibration process (empty fuel tanks, fill 5 gal, take reading, repeat for both sides) needless to say, took a while. EI had three previously approved 337s on their website. We submitted the 337 and the previously approved ones in a hope it would help the process along. Of course it came back. The FSDO stated they were no longer able to do this field approval and said we would have to go through engineering to get it done. In the mean time Aerospace Logic was able to obtain a STC for their fuel gauge. EI said they were working on a STC but it wasn't a priority and couldn't predict when it would be obtained. We have a quite a few EI gauges and they have been a great company to work with. From needing wiring harnesses (Pawnee has a huge nose) to needing instruments remarked, they are quick and very reasonable. Thanks for the ideas, Scott G Back to top Newps Guest Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote In the mean time Aerospace Logic was able to obtain a STC for their Quote: fuel gauge. I hadn't heard that they had an STC for this gauge. This would be big news and would be widely reported. Somebody else in this thread said that you still had to get a field approval for the AL unit.. Back to top Scott G. Guest Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:19 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Newps" <Nowhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:10a37qk6jmhpl50 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... In the mean time Aerospace Logic was able to obtain a STC for their fuel gauge. I hadn't heard that they had an STC for this gauge. This would be big news and would be widely reported. Somebody else in this thread said that you still had to get a field approval for the AL unit.. If you go to www.aerospacelogic.com it will allow you to download the STCs. Also on the home page which I should have read more carefully, they state STCed as primary gauge replacements. Back to top John Galban Guest Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Scott, Can't be specific about the 206, but my ramp neighbor recently replaced all of his OEM gauges with the Aerospace Logic gauges under the STC. His old Piper OEM gauges were removed, so I would assume that the STC allows for direct replacement. This was on a PA-28 John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180) Back to top John Galban Guest Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Scott, Can't be specific about the 206, but my ramp neighbor recently replaced all of his OEM gauges with the Aerospace Logic gauges under the STC. His old Piper OEM gauges were removed, so I would assume that the STC allows for direct replacement. This was on a PA-28 John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180) Back to top Tom Sixkiller Guest Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge "John Galban" <jgalban (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Scott, Can't be specific about the 206, but my ramp neighbor recently replaced all of his OEM gauges with the Aerospace Logic gauges under the STC. His old Piper OEM gauges were removed, so I would assume that the STC allows for direct replacement. This was on a PA-28 John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180) http://www.aerospacelogic.com/CertDoc.htm Back to top Sandy Mustard Guest Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Aerospace Logic Fuel Gauge Hey, is it allowed in our plane? We have a PA-28-180. The stc docs lists PA-28R-180 and PA-28S-180 but not PA-28-180. Sandy Mustard John Galban wrote: Quote: "Scott G." <olypilot (AT) xcsoaring (DOT) com> wrote Does anyone have any information whether Aerospace Logic's Fuel Gauge is a primary gauge replacement, or if the original fuel gauge would still need to be kept in the airplane? Application would be a Cessna 206. Scott, Can't be specific about the 206, but my ramp neighbor recently replaced all of his OEM gauges with the Aerospace Logic gauges under the STC. His old Piper OEM gauges were removed, so I would assume that the STC allows for direct replacement. 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