AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message H.P. Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. Back to top Dave S Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Being that "close" to NY, you may find such a beast, but by and large being an opthamologist is a specialty in its own self. Your best bet is simply finding an opthamologist who is also an AME (look on the free databases available on Landings) (but that may open another can of worms depending on what you seek. I have no idea EXACTLY what you are looking for, but optometrists (OD's) are pretty "limited" in their vision correction options (glasses and contacts). All the other methods (surgical) are the realm of Opthamologists, who are surgeons (MD's). Dave H.P. wrote: Quote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. Back to top Dave Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) http://www.lasersurgery4eyes.com/eligibility.html#military U.S. Federal Aviation Administration Policy on LASIK According to the Federal Air Surgeon's Medical Bulletin, Fall 1998, the FAA accepts LASIK for its pilots, as long as the FAA examining doctor finds "the post-operative condition has stabilized," pilots have "no significant adverse effects or complications" and their eyes meet "the appropriate vision standards" one to six months post-operatively. The bulletin states that it is the pilot's responsibility to have his or her doctor send a copy of a report documenting outcomes to the Aeromedical Certification division in Oklahoma City. This report will then become part of the pilot's permanent record. For more information, you can write to FAA Civil Aeromedical Institute, Aeromedical Education Division, AAM-400, P.O. Box 25082, Oklahoma City, OK 73125 However, commercial airline pilots or those planning to become pilots should be aware that airlines set their own hiring policies with respect to LASIK. Kenneth Martin, MD with the Aeromedical Division of the Canadian and U.S. pilot's union, Airline Pilots Association, states that the airlines' policies toward LASIK are "evolving" and that more and more pilots are having it done. By contrast, a job recruiter for Air, Inc. states that most companies will not hire pilots whom have had any surgery on their eyes, regardless of whether or not such a policy officially exists. In sum, commercial airline pilots should check with their current employer to learn their policy, official or unofficial, about LASIK. Those considering becoming commercial airline pilots should be aware that the decision to have LASIK might affect their careers. Potential pilots should carefully check with airlines that they would consider working for prior to making any decision about surgery. -- -- Dave A Yes I have stopped long enough to start and my car is back in that gear. "H.P." <466666 (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. Back to top James Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) H.P. wrote: Quote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. There is such a thing as an DAO, designated aviation opthamologist in Australia, and examination is required for commercial certification standards. A bit far to go and get treatment though I think. Back to top David Johnson Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) A long way from you, but Dr Wallace Marsh of Lompoc, CA is an opthamologist, AME and pilot. David Johnson Back to top Barry Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Quote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. In the Atlantic City area, you could try Dr. Howard Gross of Horizon Eye Care: http://www.horizoneyecare.com He's an ophthalmologist, pilot, and aircraft owner, though not an AME. I don't know if he specializes in treating pilots, but he might be a good starting point. Back to top H.P. Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Reading glasses help but not well. Transition is a slight problem when going from horizon sight picture to instruments. Also, a 1.0 or 1.25 reader solves the problem with focus on instruments but I need a 1.5 or higher to set the altimeter or to read the compass card (and probably the flight computer when I get to use it. Last week I took a lesson that started just before sundown because the tower held us short for nearly 15 minutes. I wore 1.0 readers. Forty-five minutes later during civil twilight, reading the instruments was difficult. Forget about reading my checklist. "Cub Driver" <warbird (AT) mailblocks (DOT) com> wrote Quote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:57:36 GMT, "H.P." <466666 (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. If you have a particular problem, why don't you mention it? Lots of us have eye problems and have coped with them. We might be able to help even if we don't know an eye doc in Westchester County. all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]warbird (AT) mailblocks (DOT) com[/email] (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org Back to top Barry Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Quote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Reading glasses help but not well. Transition is a slight problem when going from horizon sight picture to instruments. Also, a 1.0 or 1.25 reader solves the problem with focus on instruments but I need a 1.5 or higher to set the altimeter or to read the compass card (and probably the flight computer when I get to use it. Last week I took a lesson that started just before sundown because the tower held us short for nearly 15 minutes. I wore 1.0 readers. Forty-five minutes later during civil twilight, reading the instruments was difficult. Forget about reading my checklist. You might try progressive lenses. I'm near-sighted, and after a few years of having more and more trouble with near vision (though always meeting the FAA standard) finally gave in and got progressive bifocals. It felt a little strange for the first couple of weeks, but now I automatically tilt my head as needed to see clearly. Back to top Bob Clough Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) I met w/ an optometrist yesterday who stated that progressive lenses aren't recommended for pilots cuz they blur peripheral vision. She pointed me to either readers, classic "lined" bifocals, or bifocal contact lenses (a couple of varieties) to solve my problem of arms being too short to read charts. :) Bob "Barry" <a@b.c> wrote Quote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Reading glasses help but not well. Transition is a slight problem when going from horizon sight picture to instruments. Also, a 1.0 or 1.25 reader solves the problem with focus on instruments but I need a 1.5 or higher to set the altimeter or to read the compass card (and probably the flight computer when I get to use it. Last week I took a lesson that started just before sundown because the tower held us short for nearly 15 minutes. I wore 1.0 readers. Forty-five minutes later during civil twilight, reading the instruments was difficult. Forget about reading my checklist. You might try progressive lenses. I'm near-sighted, and after a few years of having more and more trouble with near vision (though always meeting the FAA standard) finally gave in and got progressive bifocals. It felt a little strange for the first couple of weeks, but now I automatically tilt my head as needed to see clearly. Back to top G.R. Patterson III Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) "H.P." wrote: Quote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Ok. There's an AME named Kincade in the New Brunswick area who's an opthamalogist and pilot. He can definitely take care of this for you. I can recommend him as an eye doctor, but I would not recommend him as an AME. He has moved from his old office, or I would give you better location information. George Patterson If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have been looking for it. Back to top Morgans Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) "H.P." <466666 (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Reading glasses help but not well. Transition is a slight problem when going from horizon sight picture to instruments. Also, a 1.0 or 1.25 reader solves the problem with focus on instruments but I need a 1.5 or higher to set the altimeter or to read the compass card (and probably the flight computer when I get to use it. Last week I took a lesson that started just before sundown because the tower held us short for nearly 15 minutes. I wore 1.0 readers. Forty-five minutes later during civil twilight, reading the instruments was difficult. Forget about reading my checklist. Sounds like trifocals, or bifocal reading glasses are what you need. If you find the right place, they will grind anything you want, or better said, any WHERE you want. I got a bifocal with only a small area at the top for distance vision, for working on things up close, where you can't tilt your head back to see what you need to see. Trifocals are a soon to be item for me, I fear. -- Jim in NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system ([url]http://www.grisoft.com)[/url]. Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 9/22/2004 Back to top H.P. Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) Will check him out, thanks. "G.R. Patterson III" <grpphoto (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote Quote: "H.P." wrote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Ok. There's an AME named Kincade in the New Brunswick area who's an opthamalogist and pilot. He can definitely take care of this for you. I can recommend him as an eye doctor, but I would not recommend him as an AME. He has moved from his old office, or I would give you better location information. George Patterson If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have been looking for it. Back to top Cub Driver Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:51:23 GMT, "H.P." <466666 (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Thanks for offering. The instruments seem slightly out of focus but distance out to horizon is ok. Reading glasses help but not well. Transition is a slight problem when going from horizon sight picture to instruments. Also, a 1.0 or 1.25 reader solves the problem with focus on instruments but I need a 1.5 or higher to set the altimeter or to read the compass card (and probably the flight computer when I get to use it. Last week I took a lesson that started just before sundown because the tower held us short for nearly 15 minutes. I wore 1.0 readers. Forty-five minutes later during civil twilight, reading the instruments was difficult. Forget about reading my checklist. A bit above my pay scale! Are you talking about the non-prescription spectacles sold in drugstores and the like? Are these glasses from an optometrist/occulist/whatever? Reading glasses generally won't help with the instrument panel. It's either distance vision or get trifocals. If your Rx is not radical, you can get progressive lenses with no line in them. If it is radical, like mine, then you can get "Smart Seg" bifocal that is actually a reading Rx on the bottom and intermediate on top. In fact, I got these glasses when I started flight training and repeatedldy found myself asking the instructor--this was in a Cessna, before I switched to the Cub--"Where's the altimeter?" Even before that time, I had a special pair of computer glasses, when I found that I was miserable reading a computer screen either with the top part of my glasses or the reading part. (But this information is only on the questionable assumption that I understand your post. If it applies, then you don't need an aeromedical specialist. Any good optometrist will fix you up.) Good luck! all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]warbird (AT) mailblocks (DOT) com[/email] (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org Back to top Cub Driver Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:40:26 GMT, "Bob Clough" <bob_clough (AT) notmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: I met w/ an optometrist yesterday who stated that progressive lenses aren't recommended for pilots cuz they blur peripheral vision. Then "Smart Seg" is the way to go. You get a line, like any oldfashioned bifocal, but the side vision remains unchanged. I don't think she meant peripheral vision, though! Peripheral vision is always blurred! Perhaps she meant shooting a side glance out of the edge of the lens. It's true that with a conventional bifocal, the glass to the outside is the distance Rx. This is useful when you're looking down at something on the floor. Remember this: any change you make to your vision, whether it's glasses for the first time, or bifocals or progressive lenses, will become second nature in a very short time. (Just don't do what my father did, when he mounted onto a scafolding his first day at work after getting bifocals. He glanced down, stepped between two planks, and got a hernia recovering.) all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]warbird (AT) mailblocks (DOT) com[/email] (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org Back to top john price Guest Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: aeromedical optometrist (if there is such a thing) There is an AME in Northern, NJ, who is an eye Dr., but I can't remember who... Might be Dr. Baron... John Price CFII/AGI/IGI http://home.att.net/~jm.price "H.P." <466666 (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I reside in Fairfield County, CT and train in Westchester County, NY. I'm looking for an optometrist or ophthalmologist who may specialize in treating vision correction for pilots. Anyone have a recommendation? Thanks in advance. 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