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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: Advice on purchasing new aircraft |
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I have asked this question on another site but as I will be spending a
lot of money I really need as much advice as possible.
I am looking at purchasing an aircraft for the new LSA category (<600kg
MTOW) and have narrowed it down to two and being fairly new to aviation
I was hoping to get your opinion on which one.
The two are:
CT-2k from Flight Design http://www.flightdesign.com/en_products.php
P92 Echo Super from Tecnam http://www.tecnam.co.nz/p92jinfo.htm
I am 45years old so for myself I just want it for touring around but it
will also be used as an RAA/GA trainer and hired tourer by a respected
school. Both aircraft have advantages and disadvantages and are around
the same cost.
The aircraft will be registered RAA. Here is some comparisons
(including the new J160 Jabiru):
------------------------CT2k--------Tecnam P92-----Jabiru 160
Stall (Vso)--------------34kts--------34kts--------------45kts
Cruise 75%-------------132kts-------113kts------------100kts
Max Speed (Vn--------168kts-------127kts------------132kts
Climb------------------990ft/min---1180ft/min-------500ft/min
Glide Ratio-------------17:1-----------?------------------10:1
Take Off Run-----------90m---------140m--------------200m
Take Off Run (15m)----160m---------245m--------------?
Landing Run-----------?--------------100m--------------168m
Range (with reserve)---1080nm------400nm------------1030nm
Fuel Tank---------------130litres-----70litres-----------135litres
Empty Weight----------268kg--------320kg-------------275kg
Construction------------Composite---Metal/Fabric-----Composite
Stall Aileron Control----Yes------------Yes----------------Yes
Stall Wing Drop--------No -----------Yes-----------------Yes
The CT2k and the Tecnam both have Rotax engines so engine parts will
cost the same but I will start looking at part costs for everything
else - $125k is a lot of money so I want to make sure I have thought of
everything.
I don't fly enough to warrant owning an aircraft just for myself and
nor do I have the money to have the aircraft just sitting in a hangar
BUT I fly enough that hiring all the time would be very costly. Plus, I
did my training and are a member of the club where the aircraft would
be online so I know what they are like.
I have a great deal of respect for the instructors and the club members
and in the way they ensure nothing but professionalism in their
instruction and flying. I have seen many other schools and have seen
the way they treat their birds but this one is different hence why I
have stayed with them.
Your honest opinions that may help me to decide are greatly appreciated
--
ibaker
Regards
Ian
Pilot Cert - Gazelle, Jabiru
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Richard Carlisle Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on purchasing new aircraft |
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Last time I looked at the CT-2K, which was last fall, the price was arount
70K. Have they gone up that much? I thought 70K was reasonable, but close
to pushing the limits.
Ross
"ibaker" <ibaker (AT) REMOVETHISOziPilotsOnline (DOT) com.au> wrote
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I have asked this question on another site but as I will be spending a
lot of money I really need as much advice as possible.
I am looking at purchasing an aircraft for the new LSA category (<600kg
MTOW) and have narrowed it down to two and being fairly new to aviation
I was hoping to get your opinion on which one.
The two are:
CT-2k from Flight Design http://www.flightdesign.com/en_products.php
P92 Echo Super from Tecnam http://www.tecnam.co.nz/p92jinfo.htm
I am 45years old so for myself I just want it for touring around but it
will also be used as an RAA/GA trainer and hired tourer by a respected
school. Both aircraft have advantages and disadvantages and are around
the same cost.
The aircraft will be registered RAA. Here is some comparisons
(including the new J160 Jabiru):
------------------------CT2k--------Tecnam P92-----Jabiru 160
Stall (Vso)--------------34kts--------34kts--------------45kts
Cruise 75%-------------132kts-------113kts------------100kts
Max Speed (Vn--------168kts-------127kts------------132kts
Climb------------------990ft/min---1180ft/min-------500ft/min
Glide Ratio-------------17:1-----------?------------------10:1
Take Off Run-----------90m---------140m--------------200m
Take Off Run (15m)----160m---------245m--------------?
Landing Run-----------?--------------100m--------------168m
Range (with reserve)---1080nm------400nm------------1030nm
Fuel Tank---------------130litres-----70litres-----------135litres
Empty Weight----------268kg--------320kg-------------275kg
Construction------------Composite---Metal/Fabric-----Composite
Stall Aileron Control----Yes------------Yes----------------Yes
Stall Wing Drop--------No -----------Yes-----------------Yes
The CT2k and the Tecnam both have Rotax engines so engine parts will
cost the same but I will start looking at part costs for everything
else - $125k is a lot of money so I want to make sure I have thought of
everything.
I don't fly enough to warrant owning an aircraft just for myself and
nor do I have the money to have the aircraft just sitting in a hangar
BUT I fly enough that hiring all the time would be very costly. Plus, I
did my training and are a member of the club where the aircraft would
be online so I know what they are like.
I have a great deal of respect for the instructors and the club members
and in the way they ensure nothing but professionalism in their
instruction and flying. I have seen many other schools and have seen
the way they treat their birds but this one is different hence why I
have stayed with them.
Your honest opinions that may help me to decide are greatly appreciated
--
ibaker
Regards
Ian
Pilot Cert - Gazelle, Jabiru
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- A website for Australian Pilots regardless of when, why, or what they
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ibaker Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on purchasing new aircraft |
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Richard Carlisle wrote:
| Quote: | *Last time I looked at the CT-2K, which was last fall, the price was
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70K. Have they gone up that much? * That's Australian Dollars
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ibaker
Regards
Ian
Pilot Cert - Gazelle, Jabiru
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