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MM · Guest

ADS-B Poll @ www.agacf.org wrote:

blampingcorn@hotmail.com · Guest

There was recent discussion about whether web based forums was
prostituting Usenet by commercialising free content - albeit a form
of spam in a way. Although I don't agree that the site in question is
in any way doing harm to Usenet, I agree that they should take
precautions to ensure a sensible readership and they should also adopt
protocols to ensure that the 'spirit' of Usenet is retained.
Knowing those involved, I'm sure that they will do this with
conviction, since they are as heavily involved in IT as they are in
aviation so won't compromise either discipline for the other. Even
Ozipilotsonline with their two line footer and unthreaded discussions
don't *advertise* via an original post in this newsgroup - nor do
they display commercial advertisements on the same page that they
display free Usenet content. These people respect Usenet convention to
a certain extent and are at least orientated around the information
that they make available to their readership rather than directing them
to a source of information that is quite clearly politically orientated
and has commercial and good-will sponsorship.

What I unequivocally disagree with is AGACF who regularly litter this
newsgroup with inexperienced private pilot propaganda and uneducated
trash. The forums are undeniably the trashiest presentation of any
'professional' forum I have seen on the Internet and how they
attract a readership beyond the inner circle of PPL licensed AOPA
junkies is beyond me. It is completely against the spirit of Usenet and
does nothing for the longevity of our industry in which you have no
serious financial interest.

Every page of your forum is littered with commercial advertising and
calls for 'donations' of all things when their board is provided
largely FREE of charge by aimoo.com. Where does the money go? Where are
your so called 'operating costs'? For a bunch of private pilots
interested in building the GA industry I'm yet to see a discussion
that would come close to encouraging an aspiring pilot into learning to
fly... in fact the way they carry on is likely to illicit the opposite
effect.

Mr Wetzel (or whoever posted)... I know, quite factually, that you have
received instructions from the AOPA board and Mr. Bertram especially to
stop posting (spamming?) various sites including PPRuNe and Usenet
because of the seriously adverse effect that you're having on both
AOPA and the greater industry. Let your site popularise via its own
volition as a measure of its content. If you want to popularise the
site make information available that people will actually read. I know
the post you refer to (this time) is simply a poll but I consider it to
be nothing less than spam. The same page has no less than two
commercial advertisements with links to some forty others.

You have even cross posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt &
rec.aviation.piloting who are more than likely a readership that wants
nothing to do with your little 'Australian' forum filled with
largely irrelevant dribble. Your username was also concocted for the
purpose of this spam. Shame, Andrew, Shame. To aggravate your
inappropriate behaviour, you have made attempts to hijack threads as
recently as 29th May again directing traffic to your site without even
making an attempt to contribute to the original poster (I keep your IP
address records).

I know that your heart is in the right place but your mouth isn't!

I didn't give myself a cool-down period like I normally do so I
apologise if I'm coming on a little strong.

awetzel · Guest

blampingcorn@hotmail.com · Guest

For your information and that of the group, I was present when the said
instructions were issued (and I need not post minutes of a meeting to
confirm as such). Although the direction was specifically issued
relation PPRuNe, other web sites including aus.aviation was
'clearly' implied.

Your ongoing inappropriate behaviour and spamming has only ever had a
seriously detrimental effect on AOPA, which is trying to rebuild a
reputation damaged by low-time private pilots who have no commercial
(or even 'common') sense. Unfortunately, AGACF does nothing but
reaffirm the known fact that AOPA has a few too many stooges in their
ranks.

It's good to see you will stop. That's all I will post re the
issue.

Cc: RB.

awetzel · Guest

[email]blampingcorn (AT) hotmail (DOT) com[/email] wrote:

awetzel · Guest

[email]blampingcorn (AT) hotmail (DOT) com[/email] wrote:

Roger · Guest

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:57:14 GMT, "ADS-B Poll @ www.agacf.org"
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