AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  AD Database ?          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Owning Airplanes View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Mike Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: AD Database ? I am somewhat new to flying and considering buying an airplane. But with all the ADs/SBs/etc. out for all kinds of airplanes, I was wondering if there is somewhere online I could go plug in the type of airplane - C182, and serial number - 18281234 and get a list of all outstanding ADs/SBs/etc that the airplane is subject to. Any info available like this? I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first. Thanks Back to top Bob Noel Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? In article <1127891449.613001.192860 (AT) z14g2000cwz (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Mike" <msargent100 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: I am somewhat new to flying and considering buying an airplane. But with all the ADs/SBs/etc. out for all kinds of airplanes, I was wondering if there is somewhere online I could go plug in the type of airplane - C182, and serial number - 18281234 and get a list of all outstanding ADs/SBs/etc that the airplane is subject to. Unlikely. If there were, then the software programs providing this information wouldn't be quite so popular. btw - You also have to look for ADs/SBs/etc for the engine, prop, and all accessories. Even some circuit breakers have ADs. Quote: Any info available like this? I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first. Thanks All ADs can be found online at http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/ -- Bob Noel no one likes an educated mule Back to top Dave Butler Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? Mike wrote: Quote: I am somewhat new to flying and considering buying an airplane. But with all the ADs/SBs/etc. out for all kinds of airplanes, I was wondering if there is somewhere online I could go plug in the type of airplane - C182, and serial number - 18281234 and get a list of all outstanding ADs/SBs/etc that the airplane is subject to. Any info available like this? I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first. Ask your nearest A&P/IA. They have software for finding this kind of information so that they can properly inspect for compliance. The software is probably more expensive than you want to pay for your purposes, but you can probably find a friendly IA who will look some things up for you or let you use his software. Back to top Dave Butler Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? Mike wrote: Quote: I am somewhat new to flying and considering buying an airplane. But with all the ADs/SBs/etc. out for all kinds of airplanes, I was wondering if there is somewhere online I could go plug in the type of airplane - C182, and serial number - 18281234 and get a list of all outstanding ADs/SBs/etc that the airplane is subject to. Any info available like this? I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first. Point your browser at http://groups.google.com, type in "AD search group:rec.aviation.owning". Back to top Blanche Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? The ADs are online, the SBs are usually considered "proprietary" to the vendor and you need to go to them directly. Back to top Steve Foley Guest Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? I think the Canadian FAA equivalent puts many of them on-line. "Blanche" <bcohen (AT) blackhole (DOT) nyx.net> wrote Quote: The ADs are online, the SBs are usually considered "proprietary" to the vendor and you need to go to them directly. Back to top Jeff Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? " I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first." Be sure to do a good pre-buy inspection and use the AOPA services that will do title searches and such. There shouldn't be any reason that you buy a plane with anything "surprising" about it in the paperwork. jf Back to top George Patterson Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? Jeff wrote: Quote: " I would sure hate to buy something only find it wouldn't be flyable without big bucks being sunk into it first." Be sure to do a good pre-buy inspection and use the AOPA services that will do title searches and such. There shouldn't be any reason that you buy a plane with anything "surprising" about it in the paperwork. The pre-buy definitely should turn up any non-compliances, but you should also add language to the sale contract to the effect that the owner warrants that all ADs have been complied with and agrees to pay compliance cost if this turns out to be not the case. Of course, if you are knowingly buying an aircraft that has outstanding ADs, that language would have to be worded to exclude those. IMO, an owner who is claiming that all ADs have been handled will have no hesitation in signing such an agreement. I certainly didn't when I sold aircraft. George Patterson Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor. It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him. Back to top Steve Foley Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: AD Database ? The question arises when the owner THINKS all the ADs have been complied with. After I bought my Cherokee I found out that the oil pump AD need to be done at the next overhaul, or by some time in 2003 (I think). Something that three different IAs missed was the fact that the next overhaul must occur at or before TBO. Mine had been beyond TBO for two annuals and my pre-buy. The IA who did the pre-buy offered to replace the pump at no cost, but he was 300 miles away. So I had the choice of having it done locally for $800 or flying the plane three hundred miles, staying in a hotel while it was fixed, and flying it back home. "George Patterson" <grpphoto (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote Quote: The pre-buy definitely should turn up any non-compliances, but you should also add language to the sale contract to the effect that the owner warrants that all ADs have been complied with and agrees to pay compliance cost if this turns out to be not the case. Of course, if you are knowingly buying an aircraft that has outstanding ADs, that language would have to be worded to exclude those. IMO, an owner who is claiming that all ADs have been handled will have no hesitation in signing such an agreement. I certainly didn't when I sold aircraft. George Patterson Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor. It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him. 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